This week, the Truth Prescription welcomes Todd Herman. Todd is a global high performance coach and practitioner who works with professional athletes, CEOs, entrepreneurs and businesses. He’s someone who I wanted on the show because of his BS intolerance. Tom has a leadership and skills development program, 90 Day Year, that was born out of his work with athletes. The program asks you to look at your skills, the things that make you successful, and identify which one would yield the biggest impact if you laser focused on it for 90 days? Todd says that type of focus and discipline can create a years worth of results in 90 days.
Good People - this week’s dose of The Truth Prescription comes from Ellen Grace O’Brian. Ellen is the Spiritual Director of the Center of Spiritual Enlightenment in San Jose, California. She’s a Yogacharya, which is another name for master yoga instructor, who’s been teaching Kriya Yoga for 30 years.
This week I’m joined by Dr. Ian K. Smith. May of us know Dr. Ian from his various appearances on Celebrity Fit Club, The View, as corresponding anchor on NBC news and anchor contributor to HealthWatch. He’s also a New York Times best selling author, having written 16 books with the 17th releasing soon - keep an eye out for Clean and Lean: 30 Days, 30 Foods, A New You!
Happy 2019, Good People! Our first interview of the year is with relationship and intimacy expert, Marla Mattenson. Marla’s work focuses on entrepreneurial couples, having worked with Academy Award winning actors, professional athletes and Grammy winning singers. A former doula and high school teacher, Marla’s background in math and neuroscience helps her to apply pattern recognition when coaching her clients on how to choose new and creative ways to view each other and their relationship. It’s what she calls a very logical approach to emotional material.
This week’s Truth Prescription features the annual Holiday Truth from Dr. Seku. He delivers a quick dose of truth, sharing insight on his recent reflections about the moments when he experiences fear in his life.
Inspired from a verse from the song “Living the Light” (by, a close friend and season 1 guest, Evrythng Cost featuring Heather Hayes) that talks about the importance of owning the truth and trusting the outcome, Dr. Seku talks about those fearful moments and what he does overcome them. Tune into our last episode of 2018!
Here’s to the Holiday Truth:
“I guarantee, if you really, really dig deep, deep, deep down inside - in your heart and in your gut, you are more passionate about doing what you want to do for your life than you are afraid about not doing what you want to do.” - Dr. Seku Gathers
Host: Dr. Seku Gathers
Resources: Living the Light: Evrythng Cost feat Heather Hayes
This week’s Truth Prescription features Michelle Miller, CBS Anchor and Host (CBS in the Morning, CBS Sunday and CBS Evening News). This fellow HBCU Alumni, a Howard University graduate, kicks off a candid conversation about her time in college, the life-changing lessons that she learned while studying abroad and the power of failure.
Michelle quotes the saying, “nothing beats failure but a try,” and she discusses how through failure and travel she discovered herself, evolved and began to authentically express. It’s all about owning who you are and staying the course. This conversation is rooted in the truth about integrity, honesty and hard work.
Host: Dr. Seku Gathers
Guest: Michelle Miller
[5:00] Personal Truth: Michelle talks about her journey to Howard University and how a girl from the west coast initially had zero interest in attending the school - her father asked her to attend for at least one year. He knew that she would fall in love with it and, it turns out, father knew best. Michelle discusses how, growing up, she never fit into a box and had a fear of conforming; she wanted to be accepted but did everything that she could to block it.
[15:31] I’m an American: While studying abroad in Africa, and quickly tapping into a feeling of being at home in the Motherland, Michelle was hit with the realization that she is an American. American students of all races were being all classified as foreigners. She realized that ,while she’s a descendent from Africa, she needed to also embrace that she’s an American.
[21:12] Respect Freedom While in Egypt, she had a conversation with an Egyptian man who had a child with a German woman; the mother took the child back to Germany and he didn’t know if he’d ever see his child again. Their conversation progressed to a political debate and when the topic of liberty came up, the man told her “with freedom comes great responsibility. Americans don’t understand that you have freedom to do things, but at what point do you say this is going to far?” That conversation made more responsible with how she expressed her views and with her communication.
[24:30] Embracing Failure: In our journey for success, many of us still fear this notion of failure and work so hard to ensure that we “never” make a mistake. Michelle says failure and mistakes are inevitable, you just have to learn from them and have a comeback. She discusses a big mistake that she made early in her career, one that cost her her job. By owning that mistake and communicating what she learned, a week later she had an offer for a new opportunity.
[39:50] Sweet Spot: Michelle tells a story about finding her “Sweet Spot” and the moment that reminded her to honor herself, embrace her authenticity and to stop being afraid of it.
[43:41] Maintaining Balance - Michelle talks about how she balances mom life, wife life and work life. She and her husband both have hectic schedules and they work hard to ensure that they maintain their connection and a strong relationship with their children, who are now teenagers. She tries to establish moments with her kids; she also includes their friends. She discussed that she and her husband share s deep rooted understanding and desire to better their community. They’re always connecting and discussing their people, current events and working to educate and help those around them.
[55:11] Yes or BS
Being a parent has made you a better wife?
Journalism 20 years ago had a different professional connotation?
New Orleans has more culture than New York?
Life’s chief master piece is writing well?
Michelle Miller will hold public office?
Interviewing is a gift not a skill?
David Neagle is a best-selling author, motivational speaker and leadership coach. He joins the Truth Prescription for a conversation about success, purpose and his journey of discovery. We talk about the nearly fatal accident that transformed his life and brought him face to face with the truth, unlocking his potential and setting him on a course that would change his life and the lives of others.
Tune in to learn how a high school dropout and dock worker tripled his income within just one month and created a life of happiness, success and abundance - while working with individuals and small businesses to help them achieve the same!
Guest: David Neagle
Free Download on Site: “You Were Born to Be a Success”
Host: Dr. Seku Gathers
Personal Truth: After surviving a nearly fatal water skiing accident, where he saw his life flash before his eyes, David was hit with a personal truth: at the time, he was not able to do the things that he needed to do in order to be successful. That day he prayed for a second chance and vowed that he would do what was necessary to find out what was stopping him and would spend his life helping others to do the same.
A Change in Attitude: After waking up to the fact that his attitude and mindset were limiting his ability to see beyond his circumstances, David quickly implemented 3 changes in his attitude and noticed immediate results - his income tripled within a month! That set him on a journey of discovery to figure out exactly what he did.
Forkelifer to Success Coach: He spent 7 years studying to understand how he was able to make the changes that he made; things just kept getting better and better and he’d only implemented 3 changes. He found a mentor who informed him that he’d only stumbled across these changes but truly didn’t understand the ‘how.’ As a result, if anything shifted he’d be unable to adapt to those changes. Through helping friends, coworkers and family he realized that he had a passion for the work and began professionally coaching, doing seminars and speaking engagements.
Professional Truth: David realized that he had an extreme fear of the naysayers who told him that he wouldn’t make it. Many thought he was crazy for leaving the comfort of his career and starting his own business; a business that they also didn’t believe in. He was really afraid of the “I told you so,” and he turned that fear into motivation for his success.
Recognize Where You Are: David talks about one of his clients who had difficulty getting “unstuck.” He worked with her to help her identify and focus on her gifts. Despite her not believing she could monetize her gifts, she quickly went from earning $38K a year to $167K a month! He advises that you have to start where the person is and work them out of a limiting mindset.
Study the Greats: David has studied the greats: great leaders, the very wealthy, etc. He describes the common factor among all of them and discusses his belief that everyone is born with a purpose and how that purpose is our life essence.
Importance of Environment: Our environment is comprised of people, places and things. David believes that the people in our environment shape us the most. People are influential in raising us, forming the foundation of our thoughts before age 7. “Subconsciously, the how we think tells our conscious mind what to think about what we’re experiencing when it comes to the places and the things.”
Don’t Make $$ Your God: David shares insights about this concept that goes back thousands of years. It’s included in religious texts and covered by all 7 major religions. The feeling of being trapped or limited financially, that decision is based on believing that you don’t have the resources to bring your financial goals to fruition. That approach comes from a place of lack versus a place of abundance.
Yes or BS:
Rules Are For Fools?
The Opposite of the Question is the Answer?”
Everyone Can Be a Coach?
Emotional Security is Dangerous?
David Neagle Has Fulfilled His Purpose?
Full Acceptance of Words, Actions and Deeds Leads Us to Maximum Personal Power?
We Can Benefit From All Experiences, Good and Bad?
People Are Afraid of Failure?
Galen Gordon is the Vice President of Talent Management at NFL. He is in charge of on air talent and he has 68 people under his purview. Galen previously worked for ESPN where he helped rebrand shows like First Take, Numbers Never Lie, The Stephen A. Smith Show, Sports Center: Coast to Coast, amongst others. Prior to working at ESPN, he was a news network producer working at ABC and NBC. He also spent three years at CNN. Galen got his Mass Communication degree from Oral Roberts University.
Timestamped Show Notes
[3:39] Everyone is blessed with certain gifts and abilities. Initially, Galen could not really tell what his ability and gift was. His first job an internship writing for a newspaper and two months after graduation he was hired as an associate producer in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The intent of the news director was to make him a reporter but he sat next to producers and learned how to write for television. He quickly learned that his personality is more for managing the whole thing as opposed to having one aspect like that of a reporter. Production was a natural fit for his demeanor. It took him over two years of trying different things in order to hone in on what exactly he wanted to do.
[10:41] Over the last four years, Galen has dealt with a lot of loss. Losing both parents and a second child within that time frame. He was able to learn, through each event, that he has the ability to manage through and make sure others are okay. Galen puts others first before himself. In doing all of that, one has to take time and acknowledge what is going on and to deal with it. When his wife lost their child through still birth, he held the child, spent time with the child and acknowledged that he had passed away. He said goodbye and supported his wife throughout the ordeal. For Galen, it was a release that needed to happen. At the same time, he does not question God because he has been blessed in so many other ways. There is always a bigger cause and people need to keep on moving despite everything.
[17:24] Galen's mom experienced loss at the age of three when her dad passed away. Then when she was fourteen, she lost her mother. She put herself through nursing school in England and when she finished, she took a boat from England to Canada where she started working as a nurse. From Canada, she went to Brooklyn where she met Galen's dad. She named Galen after the first doctor. Galen's mom was very rooted in her faith and in her own ability to pull herself up by the bootstrap and make something for her family. She lived her life for God and her family and therefore Galen has no excuse not to maximize the God-given abilities placed upon him. Galen continues to work hard and to learn new things every day. He believes that serving other is the price he pays for living on earth.
[22:00] Galen graduated in 1994 and it was not until the summer of 1995 that he attended The National Association of Black Journalists, NABJ. He attended the conference in Philadelphia. There were more than 2,000 African American journalists who held roles that Galen aspired to hold. He immediately identified mentors and people that could speak directly into his life and guide him. Later on when he had figured out he wanted to a producer, he started going to NABJ. NABJ, his friends and the mentors that Galen had, were there every step of the way. He now mentors and guides upcoming journalists.
[25:57] Between 1994 to 2003, Galen was doing local news. As a local news producer, he was directing and managing anchors and reporters. He then spent three years in CNN as a Network News Producer where he dealt with anchors, reporters, stories and journalists. After this, he went on to work with ESPN where he spent 11 years literally creating, developing and rebranding shows, mostly debate shows. In producing those shows, Galen was literally producing conversations. All that experience rolled into what he does now as the head of talent for the NFL Media Group. He deals with reporters, anchors and analysts. Galen is therefore able to identify a good story teller, a good reporter, assign roles that best fit a person and also manage people.
[29:23] According to Galen, Drew Brees is not the greatest NFL quarter back ever. He is the all-time passing leader in league history but not the greatest. There are other guys like Joe Montana, John Elway and Dan Marino that pass under a different game, a much more aggressive game. Drew Brees was fortunate to play in an era where it was a passing league. He broke a record that only stood for little more than three years. Galen also thinks that the most beautiful women do not come from Trinidad and an African American will own an NFL team in the next ten years. He also thinks that LeBron James is a great player.
[32:43] Galen thinks that fatherhood is easier than marriage. This is because when a person gets married he truly loves his wife but when a child comes in, especially the first one, then that person truly learns the meaning of unconditional love. This does not mean that that person loves his wife any less but he would give absolutely anything for that child. Galen also thinks that Steven A. Smith is not the most arrogant man on television and radio. Steven is the most hardworking journalist Galen has ever worked with. At the time he was working with Galen, he had four jobs.
Galen denies that Los Angeles has more culture than New York. There are so many subcultures in Brooklyn alone, let alone Manhattan or the Bronx. In California, there are large Hispanic communities, Asian communities and there is a black community as well. He thinks that Colin Kaepernick should play in the NFL in 2019. Colin has shone the light on an issue that is important not only for black people but everyone despite the narrative coming out of DC that he is disrespecting veterans and the flag. Colin took a bow against police brutality in America.
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Kelli Reese has spent over 17 years as an executive in a $30 million company in the natural food market. She also owned a bakery in Brooklyn. Kelli then moved and settled in Tulum which is on the eastern side of Mexico. She is the author of The Destiny Roadmap: The Little Guidebook to Face Your Fears, Embrace Change, and Follow Your Heart and The Relationship Roadmap: The Spiritual Guidebook to Ditch the Uncertainty and Find Clarity in Your Marriage.
[3:57] One of the personal truths Kelli has come to accept is that people can be friends with their fears. Fear should not stop anyone from doing things that are extremely scary. Kelli has learned to embrace the fear and make choices in a way that embraces the unknown while still being comfortable with the fact that she does not have everything figured out. After she graduated college, she decided to move to New York City where she initially did not want to move to. Fear constantly kept her questioning herself whether she wanted to move. She made the decision and was miserable for the first year because of fear and difficulty in adjusting. Kelli has since learned to accept the fear of the unknown especially when she takes on something big like moving to a new city or leaving a job.
[8:20] When Kelli left her six figure job, she worked with an executive coach to make sure the decision she made was the right decision. She was the breadwinner in her family and she also enjoyed the job. This made the decision to quit very hard but she embraced the fear of the unknown and she quit. Once she made the decision she felt this huge weight lift off her shoulders. This released her from the void of what was and what would be. Being undecided puts one in such a void. People get stuck because of fear and once she realized this, everything changed in her life. Fear is disguised as challenges to help an individual to grow.
[12:28] Kelli's professional truth is if a person is no longer where they are meant to be, then the universe and their soul will be screaming at them. Not being engaged at work, day dreaming of doing something else, being depressed, hating the work environment are all examples of the soul and universe screaming. Kelli had incredible health challenges in form of thyroid tumors growing in her uterus and stress at work. Every time she overcame one challenge, another one presented itself. The universe gave Kelli something she could not ignore anymore which was her health issues. Kelli says that most people only listen to the universe after they have suffered a lot because of the fear. Kelli knows her fear and understands it to a point she laughs with it.
[18:12] Kelli meditates a lot which gives her mindfulness and eases her stress levels. It also calms her nerves which help the amygdala function well. This keeps her physical body connected and in tune with what is going on in her body. The powerful thing about meditation is that it allows an individual to control the physical body so that when stress is there, the body can have mechanisms to manage it.
[20:14] Kelli's book is written for people in long term relationships who are seeking clarity about their relationships. She writes about entering relationships compassionately and with a loving heart but at the same time, having your own back. A lot of people enter relationships with wounds that are not associated with their current partners. This hinders growth a lot. Kelli advises people to show up in relationships as the person they want to be and their partners as well to be who they want to be because what a person receives in a relationship is what that person is energetically putting out. If what you are putting out is not reciprocated, then you need to ask yourself questions if you are happy or if you are in the right relationship. Such inconvenient questions will help one make a decision. Kelli had a courageous discussion with her partner. She was trying to change him into a person he wasn’t which was not fair for both of them. This led to them splitting because they no longer felt an alignment. Both of them are now happier.
[27:10] What Kelli looks for in a life coach is a coach who is in a place she wants to be, meaning he or she must be ahead of her. She likes asking inconvenient questions because she believes without those questions she would not be the person she is. Kelli acknowledges that answering questions that a person was not willing to answer before leads to personal discovery. She puts the focus on her clients and most of them retain their relationships.
The difference between coaching and cycle therapy is that cycle therapy focusses on the past while coaching focuses on the present and the future. Coaching is more goal oriented because it intends to know what a person wants to achieve, where a person wants to get to, what needs to happen for that person to achieve all that. Therapy on the other hand looks back at the past experiences. Kelli's goal is to equip her client's tool box and build a strong foundation for them so that they may be independent in future if they choose to
[30:31] Kelli calls herself a practical mystic which is a title she was given by the clients that she works with. This is because most of the people that she works with are just coming into their understanding of a deeper connection beyond what they see around in the 3D reality. She was also called that because she is down to earth. Besides being a life coach, Kelli also does readings for people. She reads the Akashic records.
[33:28] According to Kelli, fear is not necessary for success. It may be necessary for growth but not success. Success here is relative because it could mean financial or educational. There some cases where financial or educational success is driven by some deep fear. Kelli is where she is today because she pushed through fear. Kelli believes that a person can talk to their heart. The heart is the eyes and the windows to the soul. It is the connection to a person's higher self. Kelli always follows her heart.
[35:57] Indecision is not better than the wrong decision. Sometimes people get frozen because they do not know what to do because they are afraid of making the wrong decision. Kelli agrees that travel facilitates change. She recently went to Italy for a month by herself and she rented a car and drove without knowing where she was going. That experience made her realize that she is much stronger than she gives herself credit for. Traveling facilitates change especially if one travels alone.
[37:36] Kelli is not sure if she would move back to New York. She is not as productive in New York compared to Mexico. She is not currently dating but she might consider being remarried. Wealth is a state of mind according to Kelli. She does not need much to be happy. Kelli sold two houses and a BMW and she says she is so much happier in that simplified state. Helping and working with people is gratifying to her
[40:52] Success is not destined. This is because people get in their way all time. People come to learn certain lessons that they chose for themselves and things are predated including some major decisions like who to marry, to have children among others. People get in their way and look at the things that happen to them. Some look at those things that happen to them as negative while Kelli looks at them as opportunities for growth. When a person has that outlook only then will success be inevitable. People are the ones who place the limits on what they can achieve.
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Stephanie McAuliffe grew up around alcohol throughout her life.She numbed her own pain for years which meant that she did not take personal responsibility for how she thrashed through life. When she was finally brought to her knees, she turned around to face the truth of her role in everything. It was at that time that she began to set herself free. She figured that her experiences and lessons she learned from them could help others as well. As a result she wrote her book Message in the Bottle-Finding Hope and Peace Amidst the Chaos of Living with an Alcoholic.
Time Stamped Show Notes
[3:32] One of the biggest personal truths in Stephanie's life was the fact that she grew up around alcoholism. She numbed her own pain for years, which meant that she did not take personal responsibility for how she thrashed through life. When she was finally brought to her knees, she turned around to face the truth of her role in everything. It was at that time that she began to set herself free.
Stephanie was married to her second husband and she was working for AIG at that time. The job was stressful and when she went home, she was not sure what she would find because her husband was an alcoholic. At one point she thought she was having a heart attack and ended up in the hospital but it was hiatal hernia caused by stress. At the hospital she was still working. As she was looking up at the ceiling she asked herself what she was doing with her life. She was doing more for her husband that he was doing for himself. She was also doing more for him than she was doing for herself.
[5:17] Stephanie's personal truth was to take personal responsibility for herself and also to stop ignoring her feelings. The first time she started to work with a coach, the coach asked Stephanie how she wanted to feel. Stephanie was stunned and could not answer the questions. According to Stephanie, people are taught not to express their feelings especially those who grew up around alcohol.
[7:04] Stephanie proved her worth by the size of her projects and her elevation with the company. She proved her worth with things outside of her because she did not feel worthy within. Stephanie made it up all the way to becoming a senior manager. Managing all the programs, keeping everything running and the responsibility she put on herself prevented her from unwinding. She begun having time when she was not going to the city regularly. This gave her an opportunity to unwind which was very foreign for her. The professional truth for Stephanie was to focus on internal wealth.
[9:16] There are more male alcoholics than female. The reason why Stephanie focusses on women is because the family members of the alcoholics are often left to figure things out on themselves. This responsibility solely lies on the wives. Such women have to power themselves through the day rather than living and finding joy in the moment. Stephanie likens it to death by a thousand paper cuts. People don’t want to face it because the love the person but hate the disease. If nothing changes the question one should ask is whether or not they can continue living life the same way forever.
[11:05] Stephanie encourages women to have conversations with their children. Children see and hear everything. They should not leave the children to figure out things on their own. Having that conversation with kids reassures them and they can confidently come to you when they feel afraid. The way people heal is by having open conversations and feeling the emotion.
[12:20] People get stuck in their logical minds and are left trying to think of a way out a situation. When a person is stressed, all the blood goes to the back of the brain. That individual cannot therefore think logically. Stephanie helps her clients to focus on the energy behind the situations that they are living in or trying to resolve. She also helps them to uncover and discover the source of the energy and the trigger. Once the source of energy or trigger is cleared, that information can be incorporated as knowledge and wisdom. Carrying it forward it will also no longer be a trigger.
Sometimes people get an intuitive nudge to turn left or to go a certain place. That nudge is your higher self through the right brain conversing. This refers to the energy mentioned above. Another example is when a person is going to talk with his mother and he feels angry, anxious then there is a trigger there. That trigger is energy. A lot of such triggers comes from childhood and when people try to protect themselves they are locking that hurt and pain inside their hearts.
[15:05] One of Stephanie's clients was living with her alcoholic husband and was in the process of getting ready to file for divorce after a 30 year marriage. Growing up her father was a heavy drinker and her mother would go crazy about her father's drinking. The only way out for her was to isolate herself. The lady then married a man who made her isolate herself again. Once the lady understood that the isolation energy from her childhood had been carried into her marriage, she is now able to visit her parents and not get triggered by the visits, thoughts of the visits or the conversations. She now sees and loves them for who they are.
[16:43] People do not have to be authors in order to be coaches. There are training programs that are out there that people can take to help them become coaches. Stephanie's coaching is based on life experience. Her coaching has evolved into what worked for her and it continues to evolve as she works with clients. Book give credibility but they do not necessary teach anyone how to coach. It will help an individual to express their story.
Stephanie experienced abuse while growing even to the point of being threatened of death if she told anyone. Because she could not tell anyone, all that energy stuck in her throat. It was when she was writing her book that she realized that.
[20:02] Addiction is not all about control. It is based on underlying issues that somebody has not dealt with. An example is if Stephanie is not dealing with her emotional issues , triggers and things that happened earlier in life then she will go into working too much, eating too much, shopping, alcohol or drugs. There is some control however. So its yes and BS.
[21:12]Public speaking is fun for Stephanie. According to Stephanie when you truly believe in what it is you are talking about, then it becomes like having a conversation. She was always terrified at presenting in corporate meetings because she did not believe in what she was being forced to present.
[21:56] Coaching does not necessarily heal faster than counseling. This solely depends on the coach or counsellor. Stephanie has worked with great coaches and others that she can’t recommend to anyone. It all boils down to the person you are working with. Stephanie advises people to look for someone who deals with body, mind and spirit. A holistic approach be it a coach or a therapist.
[22:53] Marriage build on relationships to self. David wrote a book called Dear Lover. The book comprises of essays which a man writes to his wife. In one of the essays, he talks about two people coming together and creating something bigger than themselves. Relationships therefore is not about filling a void. It's about two people coming together and bringing their best selves. The two people should have the mindset to grow to continue to grow mentally and spiritually together.
[24:29] The government should not reinstitute prohibition. The drug was ineffective. Stephanie says that prohibition would not work but she however does not agree with the legalization of Marijuana. According to Stephanie, legalizing Marijuana is just another vehicle for people to numb themselves. Marijuana for medical purposes is okay.
Dear Lover - David Deida
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In this second part of this two-part episode, Seku continues his conversation with sports analyst, Chris Broussard about the personal and professional truths Chris has learned throughout his life.
In this first part of this two-part episode, Seku dives into conversation with sports analyst, Chris Broussard about the personal and professional truths Chris has learned throughout his life. From playing basketball at Oberlin College to commentating for ESPN, Chris has found Christ, found the love of his life, and figured how to balance confidence and humility in the field.
Joanna Bateman is originally from Loveland, Ohio. She's a comic, a SAG actor and an activist. She loves to say that she is emotionally available for a living. In this episode, Joanna will talk about the truths she has had to deal with in her own life that have helped her to move past, break through and become more successful.
Showing yourself in your art is a part of being creative. However, it’s not a choice that every artist chooses to make. On today's episode, Dr. Gathers talks about the OTR II concert and the music by Beyoncé and Jay-Z. Beyoncé released Lemonade in 2016 and Jay-Z released 4:44 the following year. Most recently the couple made the joint album, Everything Is Love as The Carters. The trials, tribulations, and truths about themselves and their infamous relationship are displayed throughout their music. After seeing them perform, Dr. G started to reflect, “ What does it means to be transparent in your art and how does it mean for artists to reveal their truths?” On this special episode of The Truth Prescription, we get Dr. Gathers' thoughts on the OTR II Tour and the Carters’ growth as artists.